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"I don't see the city anymore. There's only dark corners."
―Karen Page[src]

Karen Page is the secretary for Nelson and Murdock and, along with Foggy Nelson, Matt Murdock and Ben Urich, was instrumental in the effort to bring Wilson Fisk to justice. While working for Nelson and Murdock, Page came into contact with Frank Castle, who she helped defend in court. When Nelson and Murdock fell apart, Page joined the New York Bulletin with the intention of writing Castle's true story, however during her investigation she was kidnapped by Ray Schoonover and saved by Castle. Later the Hand also kidnapped Page and she was rescued by Daredevil before Murdock revealed to her that he was Daredevil.


Early Life

Karen Page was born in Fagan Corners, Vermont [1], the daughter of Paxton and Penelope Page and the older sister of Kevin Page. Sometimes after the death of her brother in a car accident, Page moved from Vermont to work in New York City.

Union Allied Construction

"I didn't do this! I didn't do this!"
―Karen Page[src]

Karen Page worked as a secretary in Union Allied Construction. One day she was emailed a file which contained damning evidence of Union Allied's money laundering schemes. Seeking to tell someone about what she had discovered, Page asked Daniel Fisher, one of her co-workers from the legal department, to join her for drinks at a nearby bar, believing him to be an overall good and nice man whom she could trust.


Page beside the body of Daniel Fisher

The two shared a couple of drinks but before long Page became dizzy and lost sense of where he was during the night. The next thing she knew, she awakened to find herself in her apartment covered in Fisher's blood, staring at his corpse in front of her as she held bloody knife in her hand. The police kicked in her apartment door and arrested her as she pleaded that she did not commit the crime.[2]

Meeting Nelson and Murdock


Page meets Foggy Nelson and Matt Murdock

Page was taken to prison where she was greeted by Foggy Nelson and Matt Murdock of the new law firm Nelson and Murdock, who had been informed of her case by Officer Brett Mahoney. They introduced themselves and explained their intentions to assist her; Page became suspicious of their experience and they confessed that they had only officially been operating as their own law firm for seven hours and she would be their first client. When she confessed that she had no money to pay them, Nelson attempted to leave the case, but Murdock convinced him to stay. She told them her side of the story and Murdock told her that he believed her story and they agreed to take on the case.


Page is almost murdered by Clyde Farnum

Later that day, Page slept in her cell as Officer Clyde Farnum sneaked up behind her and attempted to murder her by wrapping a bed sheet around her throat, apologizing to her as he choked her. Refusing to die, Page was able to free herself by scratching Farnum's eyes and knocking him back; she then used her only chance to scream at the top of her voice until help arrived. In a direct response to the assassination attempt and the lack of an official accusation against her, Foggy Nelson and Matt Murdock were able to get Page released from prison for her own safety.

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Page tells her story to Nelson and Murdock

Page was released to the custody of Nelson and Murdock and taken back to their office. Once there and convinced that she was safe with them, Page told the lawyers how she obtained the financial records and her confrontation with her boss, although she confessed that she had not considered the consequences of her actions at the time. Page broke down crying as she began speaking about the death of Daniel Fisher, as she felt personally responsible for the death of such a kind man. Fearing for her life, Page requested to return to her apartment, but Foggy Nelson convinced her that it was a bad idea and Matt Murdock offered his apartment for her to spend the night.


Page is questioned by Matt Murdock

At Matt Murdock's Apartment, Page was given a change of clothes, as hers had gotten wet in a rain storm, and a beverage. She learned that Murdock had been blind since he was nine and missed his sight. Continuing their earlier questions, Murdock asked her why she was not killed in her apartment, as the people going after her would have no reason to keep her alive unless she had something of value; in an attempt to keep Nelson and Murdock safe from harm, she lied, saying that she did not have a copy of the financial report. Murdock seemingly accepted this and they went to bed shortly afterwards.[2]

Meeting the Man in Black


Page meets the Man in the Mask

"Who? What the hell?"
"I'll get this into the right hands."
"No... You can't, you can't take it to the police. You can't trust anyone!"
―Karen Page and Daredevil[src]

Believing that Matt Murdock was asleep, Page left to return to her own residence. Inside a vent in her bathroom, Page grabbed the flashdrive holding the copy of the report, but she was ambushed by a thug who rammed her into a wall. After procuring the flashdrive, he approached the unconscious Page to kill her with his knife when a masked man began a fight with him. Page watched as the fight became so intense that the two fell from her window to the street. Ultimately, the masked man won the fight and collected the flashdrive, promising to take it to the proper hands; Page told him not to trust anyone, so the masked man said that he would release the information to everyone. The next morning, there was a story in the New York Bulletin.[2]

Working for Nelson and Murdock


Page is employed by Nelson and Murdock

With the truth exposed and Page cleared of all charges against her, she joined Matt Murdock and Foggy Nelson to celebrate their victory. Page cooked them both a meal to thank them for their assistance, noting that it was Murdock believing in her story that gave her the strength to keep fighting. Noting that since Union Allied Construction had now been taken down because of their criminal activities she was out of a job, Page requested work at Nelson and Murdock, promising them that she would work for free. She was unsurprisingly hired without any questions.[2]

Afraid of the City


Page goes drinking with Foggy Nelson

Days later, Page stayed late at Nelson and Murdock unpacking when she heard Foggy Nelson singing horribly. She let him know that she was there so he stopped. They decided to go out for drinks. Arriving at Josie's Bar and having a drink, Page was convinced to discuss why she did not want to go home; for days, she has attempted to get Daniel Fisher's blood out her carpet and cannot. She said that lately, all she can see are the threats and dangers around her. Nelson showed her that though the patrons in Josie's Bar looked tough, at heart, they were good people trying to relax.


Page and Foggy Nelson get drunk

As the night wore on, Foggy Nelson told Page about his past as an awkward teenager before they drunkenly went to Matt Murdock's Apartment to get him to accompany them in their fun, waking one of Murdock's neighbors. They left when they realized that he was not home. As they continued to explore the city throughout the night, Nelson joked that Page had made him terrified of the city and he never wished to return home. Page thanked Nelson for all he had done for her, including cheering her up, noting that she really needed a night like they had shared after everything she had experienced.[3]


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Page working at Nelson and Murdock

"I exposed criminal activity."
"And had you taken that information to any law enforcement agency your rights may have been protected but instead you went to the
New York Bulletin, a privately owned news organization."
―Karen Page and a Union Allied Lawyer[src]

The next morning, Page was in the office and received a letter from Union Allied Construction, which she quickly hid upon the arrival of Foggy Nelson, still reeling from a hangover caused by the night before. As they discussed the night before and how Page wished to go back on her word about working for free, they were interrupted by the arrival of Matt Murdock, who entered with scars on his face. Page asked Murdock how he received the scars and he claimed he had a minor accident.


Page is insulted by James Wesley

A knock on the door was heard; Page was so surprised that Murdock had to remind her that it was her job to answer it. She welcomed a well suited man who would not give his name. He revealed that he worked for a conglomerate that wanted to hire the lawyers to represent their client, John Healy, who had been accused of murder. Murdock was suspicious of the man and told him that they wanted a certain type of clientele; the suited man asked if all his clients worked for them after escaping murder charges. Knowing he was referring to her, Page felt embarrassed; she was asked to leave the meeting so the men could talk more candidly.


Page is offered money for her silence

Page left the office and met with a lawyer representing Union Allied Construction. He insisted on having her sign a non-disclosure agreement and accept six months of pay as well as a large sum on top not to discuss what happened with Daniel Fisher and her experiences at Union Allied. Page insisted that Union Allied's crimes were too great to be ignored and the story must be told, but the man refused to listen to her; Page felt insulted by the proposal and refused to sign. When she returned to the law office, Murdock asked her to research the background of the suited man; she learned that it was a dummy company.


Page speaks to Jennifer Fisher

Later, Page went to the house of Jennifer Fisher to give her condolences on the death of her husband. Although Page attempted to convince her to help her expose the criminal activities of Union Allied Construction in honor of Daniel, Fisher only wished to be left alone to raise her children in peace and wanted no part in any conspiracy that her late husband may have been involved with. Page learned that Fisher signed the non-disclosure agreement because she needed the money and she felt her children had to be her priority now. However, both women agreed that there was something wrong with Union Allied Construction.


Page meets Ben Urich

With no support, Page traveled to the office of Ben Urich in the New York Bulletin newspaper, who had written the newspaper article exposing the Union Allied Construction scandal. Page told him that she had read his article and he initially believed she was referring to a piece he had recently written about the Hell's Kitchen Subway line. Once she explained that she was in fact referring to his Union Allied piece as well as his many articles about crime rings in Hell's Kitchen, Page solicited his help in researching the company.[4]

Working with Ben Urich

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Page has coffee with Ben Urich

"I read every big story with your byline. The VA kickbacks, toxic runoff, the Teachers Union scandal. Hell, you pretty much brought down the Italian mob back when I was in diapers. Whatever happened to that reporter, Mr. Urich?"
"He got old. And a hell of a lot less stupid."
―Karen Page and Ben Urich[src]

A few days later, Page and Ben Urich met in a cafe; she bought him a cup of coffee as they discussed Union Allied Construction. Urich told her that because of her past, he was skeptical about accepting her story. Page told him that she grew up admiring the newspaper articles he wrote which brought down organized crime and wanted to know if he was that same man; he told her he was not.


Ben Urich protects Page from danger

In an attempt to continue her research alone, Page went to an auction that was selling off the equipment from Union Allied Construction; she started to sketch profiles of those who participated, hoping to gain a lead. Ben Urich, having found her there, sat behind Page and told her not to acknowledge him. Urich warned her that what she was doing was a bad idea and told her to stop, noting that many of the people there were also not biding and were likely looking for people like her to wanted to expose their organization. He suggested that she bid on something at the auction so to not draw unwanted attention to herself. When she asked how he knew she would be there, Urich told her it was because it was exactly what he would have done as a young reporter.


Page speaks to Ben Urich

Once Page had purchased some office equipment from the early nineties which she paid for by using Nelson and Murdock's account, she met Urich in the diner he had told her about. He told her that he would help her but, describing to her people who were killed after helping him expose criminal empires in the past, she must be discrete in their meetings, telling her to no longer meet him in his office and not to tell anyone else about their investigation, to assure that nobody else was harmed. He then told her to sign the non-disclosure agreement, as although it prevented her from talking about the scandal, Urich himself had no plans on signing it; she decided to use that money to pay for the office supplies she bought at the auction.


Page tells Foggy Nelson of her purchase

Feeling guilty, Page phoned Foggy Nelson and asked him to come into the office to look at the bundle of supplies she had purchased. Nelson teased her, noting that the tax machine was likely from the 90s and she told him there was even more on the way. She nervously informed him that she had paid for all the equipment using the company's bank details although she insisted that she had a plan to pay for the equipment. However much to Page's surprise, rather than getting annoyed and firing her as she had expected, Nelson simply smiled and told her the tale of his mother wishing him to be a butcher when he was a young man.[5]

Elena Cardenas


Page meets Elena Cardenas

"Your client can accept a buyout or live in squalor until she's evicted."
"Those workmen acted illegally. They busted the place up."
Marci Stahl and Karen Page[src]

Elena Cardenas came to the office one morning as Page and Foggy Nelson attempted to get the office equipment Page had bought to work. Cardenas spoke a mixture of Spanish and broken English; Page helped Nelson to understand Cardenas' dilemma. She was being forced from her rent-controlled apartment building by her landlord Armand Tully who was being represented by the law firm of Landman and Zack.


Page speaks to Marci Stahl

Page and Nelson went to the Landman and Zack Law Office and met with Marci Stahl, the lawyer representing Tully and Nelson's ex-girlfriend. Page witnessed as the two lawyers debated about the case, with Stahl insisting that the workers had left the building site because they feared for their safety due to the drugs and crime in the building, but Nelson argued back that this was irrelevant as the workers had breached their contract. Nelson won the debate by being confident in his own skills as a lawyer; Page witnessed as Stahl complimented Nelson, wishing that they remained together as both co-workers and lovers however Nelson informed her that he might have done if she hadn't started working for Landman and Zack and kept her soul.

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Foggy Nelson feeling Page's face

Page then accompanied Nelson to the Elena Cardenas' Apartment. They saw the results of Tully's men who had destroyed the place, calling it renovation, in hopes of making Cardenas leave. Page and Nelson decided to do home repairs. After fixing the water, Cardenas asked Nelson and Page to stay for dinner; Cardenas quickly left the two alone and Page laughed as she realized that Cardenas was playing matchmaker. As the two ate dinner, Nelson and Page discussed his past with Matt Murdock in college and his relationship with Stahl. When the conversation turned to how Murdoch perceived Page, Page asked Nelson to close his eyes, feel her face, and describe the feeling.[6]

Hell's Kitchen Burns


Page and Nelson take Cardenas to hospital

"Hey Karen, hell of a first date huh."
"I've actually had worse."
Foggy Nelson and Karen Page[src]

Suddenly, an explosion rocked the apartment, blasting the two to the floor. Page was left in the apartment with Cardenas, who had received a bad cut to her forehead, as Nelson went to see if others needed assistance before they took Cardenas to the hospital. Once at the hospital, Page ensured that Mrs. Cardenas received medical attention from Claire Temple before Nelson got his phone to call Matt Murdock to ensure he was alright. Before he could make the call, Page noticed the blood coming from his side from a shard of glass which had embedded itself in his stomach.


Page watches the news with Foggy Nelson

While Foggy Nelson received treatment for his wound in a hospital bed, Page continued to try and contact Matt Murdock, who failed to answer his phone. Nelson attempted to leave to look for him but Page convinced him to stay. They later watched the news as reports came in that the Man in the Mask had seemingly shot several police officers after causing the explosions and fighting police officers. Page told Nelson that it was the same man who had rescued her days before, although Page became confused and unsure about the man's intentions, Nelson seemingly made up his mind that the man in the black mask was not to be trusted. [7]

Taking Risks

"Anything happens to you, it's going to be on me, I don't want to be responsible for that, I can't."
"I'll be okay, they're not going to win."
Ben Urich and Karen Page[src]

Returning to the Nelson and Murdock office, Page listened as Foggy Nelson continued to push his view that the Masked Man was nothing more than a coward and a vigilante. Page argued against his views, noting that it was all speculation and no one knew if he was a terrorist or a hero, but Nelson remained unmoved on his views. Page called on Matt Murdock to back her up but he only gave her professional legal answers, noting that he would be willing to defend him in court. In an attempt to lighten the mood, Nelson suggested they start a softball team, but Page decided to leave early instead without telling them where she was going.


Page catches up with Ben Urich

Page instead met with Ben Urich in a quiet spot to discuss the Union Allied Construction case while drinking coffee, she explained that the company had destroyed the paper-trail making it nearly impossible to trace. Urich suggested that she let the case go but Page continued to refuse. Urich explained that he believed that the Japanese Mafia and the Bombing of Hell's Kitchen might be connected to the case, they discussed whether or not the Masked Man had shot Detective Christian Blake and Urich advised her to keep away from him. When Page showed over enthusiasm, Urich reminded her that this was not a game and told her he would take responsibility for anything that happened to her.

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Page speaks with Elena Cardenas

Page then visited Elena Cardenas in her home where she restocked her fridge and checked on her condition after her head wound during the Bombing of Hell's Kitchen. Instead of asking for payment for the food, Page asked for information on her case in an attempt to connection it to Union Allied Construction. After briefly commenting on how Foggy Nelson was clearly in love with Page and how Armand Tully was a shit for going on vacation, Cardenas explained that she had not paperwork for the construction work but did describe the look of the men who had been sent to do the work and had destroyed her apartment, which Page noted down. As she left, Page assured Cardenas that she should not be worried.

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Page is attacked by Wilson Fisk's thugs

Once outside, Page was followed by Joseph Pike and Stewart Schmidt, who matched the description Cardenas had given of the men who had wrecked her home. The men attacked Page and stopped her using her mace to defend herself, threatening to tear her eyes out to stop her snooping around where she was not meant to. Although she attempted to free herself, Pike knocked Page to the floor before Foggy Nelson appeared and knocked him out with his baseball bat, Page maced Schmidt into submission while confronting Nelson as to why he was following her before they both escaped and left her attackers lying in pain.


Page introduces Foggy Nelson to Ben Urich

Page and Nelson went straight to the office of Ben Urich at the New York Bulletin, where Urich immediately reminded her that she should not have told anyone about their investigation, Page defended her decision noting that Nelson was the best lawyer they could have on their side and that he could be trusted. Urich relented and showed Nelson their information board which detailed everything they knew about the crime rings in Hell's Kitchen, noting that they all led to a mysterious Kingpin who controlled everything. They explained how they believed that the Masked Man was most likely working against the Kingpin.[8]

Continuing the Investigation

Karen explains her investigation of Union Allied

Page explains her investigation of Union Allied

"I have already been hurt by those bastards. You know I don't care what I signed or how much money they paid me to forget, I don't, and I'm not going to just stick my head in the sand and let it happen to somebody else because I am scared. Which I am, a lot."
―Karen Page[src]

In the Nelson and Murdock Law Office, Page and Nelson discussed why they must not inform Matt Murdock of their investigation, as Page noted that Murdock would call them foolish. Before they could continue their talk, Murdock walked into the office. Murdock demanded to know what they weren't telling him and Page immediately confessed they were looking into the Union Allied Construction case and explained how they would use Ben Urich to publish the story for them. Murdock insisted that they stop but Page refused to be defeated so Murdock agreed to help as long as they approached the case from a legal position.

They spent the night going through Union Allied Construction's legal papers looking for clues, Murdock found a connection between the men who attacked Page and Westmeyer-Holt Contracting who were still employed by Union Allied, as they continued to work Foggy Nelson tried to give Page the nick-name of Kay, which she did not accept. Page then saw that Detective Christian Blake had woken up from his coma and they commented on how he would be one of the only people to know what really happened on the night of the Bombing of Hell's Kitchen.

The next morning, while working in the Nelson and Murdock Law Office, Page saw a WHiH World News Report which showed Wilson Fisk stepping forward to condemn the actions of the Man in the Mask who he called a terrorist who had mercilessly attacked Leland Owlsley. Fisk told the people of New York not to bow down to fear and stand together to make Hell's Kitchen a better place. Page watched the report closely but did not fully believe in Fisk, deeming him to be a threat to Hell's Kitchen and keeping her faith in the Masked Man.[9]

Losing the Battle


Page and Ben Urich with Nelson and Murdock

"The Mask came to Ben for help, I don't care how rich Fisk is, no one can totally erase their past. Somewhere out there there has to be a piece of paper, a witness, the truth."
―Karen Page[src]

Ben Urich was invited to the Nelson and Murdock Law Office to discuss what should be done next, despite Page and Foggy Nelson insisted nothing had changed, Urich insisted Fisk was now in the best position possible as the people's viewed him as nothing but good. Matt Murdock then arrived as Urich explained that he had met the Man in the Mask who was also hunting Fisk and had given him documents that could expose Fisk with the right evidence to back them up. Page insisted that they keep digging to find something to bring Fisk down and they use the Masked Man's help to do it.

To continue the investigation, Foggy Nelson contacted Marci Stahl and explained that Armand Tully was indeed on an island where he could not be contacted and Wilson Fisk had just become the owner of the properties he had owned. Page began to lose faith before they were interrupted by the arrival of Elena Cardenas, who explained the offer to evict the tenants had been doubled, but Page and Nelson insisted she keep fighting. Once she left Matt Murdock claimed it to be dangerous to keep a hold of the property when Fisk wanted it so much, but Page refused to stop. Murdock relented and told them to keep digging while he went to speak to Fisk's girlfriend Vanessa Marianna. That night they successfully identified their attackers from the night before as Joseph Pike and Stewart Schmidt.

Karen receives a message regarding Elena Cardenas

Page learns of Elena Cardenas' murder

The next morning Page was working in the Nelson and Murdock Law Office when Matt Murdock arrived, having not gotten what he wanted from Vanessa Marianna. She explained how they had identified Pike and Schmidt although this still did not give them a solid lead. To lighten the mood however, Page and Nelson presented Murdock with a sign for Nelson and Murdock that they had had made. Their good times were stopped when Page answered the phone to the police, who asked them to come to the morgue as Elena Cardenas had been murdered.[10]

The Death of a Friend

Karen saddened by Elena's death

Page cries over Elena Cardenas' death

"If there is a god, and if he cares at all about any of us. Fisk will get what he deserves, you have to believe that."
"I do."
―Karen Page and Matt Murdock[src]

They arrived at the morgue where Brett Mahoney presented Elena Cardenas' body, which they identified to be her. Mahoney explained that she had been robbed and stabbed by a Junkie outside her front door. Although Matt Murdock advised Page to wait outside, she insisted upon staying beside her friend, explaining to Mahoney that she did not have any family left so Foggy Nelson agreed to see to the arrangements of her funeral. Nelson then comforted Page as she cried into his shoulder.

The three went to Josie's Bar to drown their sorrows as Josie gave them free drinks out of sympathy. Foggy Nelson told Matt Murdock about how Marci Stahl had warned them of the criminal activity in Cardenas' building but they had put it aside as nothing more than a fear tactic and Page concurred. As Murdock began to explain how Wilson Fisk could be responsible, Fisk appeared on the television making a statement about the incident where he claimed to be in mourning for her death and defending his own involvement in the case. Once Nelson left to answer his phone, Page put forward her desire for the Masked Man to kill Fisk, leading to Murdock asking her about religion, explaining himself to be Catholic, although he noted it didn't help him in mourning. Murdock then left the bar.

Karen and Foggy drunk at Josie's bar

Page and Foggy Nelson get drunk

As the night wore on, Page and Foggy Nelson continued drinking until Nelson could barely stand. Nelson could no longer hold back his emotions was he openly wept over Elena Cardenas' death, expressing his regret at not advising her to take the money that was offered. Although Page tried to comfort him, he went on to explain how the Hell's Kitchen he grew up in was unpleasant but at least had a heart, she told him that she did not believe it was doomed. Nelson asked Page how they should fight Wilson Fisk, and she claimed that they had to make him pay.[10]

Falling Apart

Karen speaking with Foggy

Page speaks with Foggy Nelson on the phone

"I'm sorry Ben, there's nothing worse, feeling choices are made for us, there's nothing you can do but swim in shit and hope you don't get too much in your mouth."
"Shit like you?"
―Karen Page and Ben Urich[src]

Page attempted to call Matt Murdock but found that his phone went to voice mail; seeking answers, she then tried calling Foggy Nelson who answered. When she asked if everything was alright, he informed her that Murdock had been in a car accident; when she tried to come and see for herself, Nelson insisted that she stay at the Nelson and Murdock Law Office as he would take charge of looking after Murdock.

Having stepped out the office for a few minutes, Page returned and continued to try to call Nelson. She noticed a strange box on her desk and was greeted by Ben Urich. Urich briefly pressed Page about being more careful before he told her to open the box he had left her. Page opened it and found all over Urich's research into Union Allied Construction and Wilson Fisk for their story. Urich explained he was quitting to take care of his wife who was being kicked out of Metro-General Hospital. Page decided to reaffirm Urich's interest in the case by showing him her latest discovery but claimed to be showing him a nursing home.

Karen converses with Ben Urich

Page converses with Ben Urich

As Page and Urich drove to Saint Bénézet Retirement Care, they discussed why Urich had not told her the seriousness of his wife's condition. He told her that he felt that saying it made it true and explained how she could have her good days and bad days, telling her how smart she was and how he felt he did not deserve her. Page attempted to comfort Urich by saying that there was nothing worse than having choices made for you and that everyone had to deal with shit, to which Urich joked that he had to deal with shits like her. She told him that everyone has secrets that they hold onto and he told her that the truth always comes out in the end.[11]

Meeting Fisk's Mother

"It wasn't his fault, his father he was... Wilson just wanted him to stop. It wasn't his fault what he did."
"Mrs. Vistain what did your son do?"
Marlene Vistain and Karen Page[src]

Before long, Page and Ben Urich arrived at the Saint Bénézet Retirement Care, where Urich insisted that he could not afford it. Page continued to keep the truth from him and suggested they have a look around. As they walked an old man told Page that she was very pretty, which Urich joked about. They discussed how all the people here must have so many stories to tell. Page suggested that they talk to one of the residents and learn what it is really like to stay in the hospice; although Urich was reluctant, Page pushed forward.


Page speaks to Marlene Vistain

Page led Urich into the room of Marlene Vistain, the woman she had come to see. Although Vistain was clearly confused by her new visitors, Page and Urich convinced her to discuss the hospice which pleased her as she asked if they were married. Page asked if Vistain had been married before and she explain her late husband had been her third, telling them of each husband. Vistain told them of her first husband who drank; she told them that her son's name was Wilson Fisk which peaked Urich's interest. Vistain went on to explain that the young Fisk had murdered his father in cold blood to protect his mother.[11]

Questions and Apologies

"There are no winners and losers in something like this."
"Well, Elena Cardenas might disagree with you if she still could."
Ben Urich and Karen Page[src]

The next day Page went to Matt Murdock's Apartment with a balloon to try and make him feel better after his car accident while also questioning why she could not get ahold of Foggy Nelson. Murdock opened the door with a bruised and beaten face, Page questioned if Wilson Fisk had Murdock beaten up. Page told Murdock about meeting Marlene Vistain and learning of Fisk killing his father and suggested that it could help discredit Fisk. Murdock told her to go back to the office and tell Nelson what she had learned, as she left Page gave Murdock the balloon.

Karen gives Matt a balloon

Page tells of her findings to Matt Murdock

Page met with Ben Urich to discuss what they had learned from Marlene Vistain, Urich made it clear that he was furious at having been lied to and tricked. Page told him that she had lied because she still needed his help as she viewed the case as more important than a story as people's lives were at risk. Urich claimed that Vistain's claims were not enough as Wilson Fisk could spin the story to turn it to his favor, noting that no one could come out a winner or loser in this case, but Page noted that Elena Cardenas had lost. Urich informed her that there had been an assassination attempt of Fisk the night before at the Van Lunt Building.

Page found Foggy Nelson that night drinking alone at Josie's Bar, when Page tried to get his feedback on Marlene Vistain's story, the drunk Nelson rudely claimed it would not be nearly enough to bring down Wilson Fisk despite it proving that he had been lying. Page tried to ask what had happened to Matt Murdock, demanding that Nelson not tell her that he had been in a car accident as this was clearly a lie, Nelson told her to ask him, claiming that he and Murdock were going through a very rough patch in their friendship and told her it was too personal to discuss. Page informed Nelson that Elena Cardenas' apartment block was being torn down and they needed to continue to fight against Fisk while they still could.

Leaving Josie's Bar, Page called Matt Murdock again to update him but could only leave a message on his voicemail where she told him to repair his relationship with Nelson. She then called Ben Urich at his office, she told Urich how Nelson and Murdock was falling apart and she did not know why. When Urich insisted that this meant their story was getting interesting, Page asked how he could keep doing this job day after day. Page thanked Urich, despite him insisted that he wasn't going to write the story, but she said she wanted to thank him for being there and caring about her and they agreed to talk the next day.[12]



Page is kidnapped by James Wesley

"Do you really think I would put a loaded gun on the table where you could reach it?"
"I don't know, do you really think this is the first time I've shot someone?"
James Wesley and Karen Page[src]

As Page neared her home, Page commented on how the light outside her blinding was flickering. When she went to get her keys from her bag, James Wesley appeared behind her and attacked her, using chloroform to knock her unconscious before taking her to an empty warehouse where he waited for her to awake. When Page did finally awake she found herself sat on when end of a table, too dizzy to move. Wesley greeted her kindly and checked on her condition before sitting on the other end of the table.


Page is questioned by James Wesley

Wesley told her that after the events with Union Allied Construction he had considered having her killed but it was decided that she could do no more harm, and so they had given her the money to keep her quiet, but she had made a choice which had led her to her current situation. He then pulled out a gun and placed it on the table. He began talking about Wilson Fisk's love for the city, despite his own distaste for it, before explaining that it was Fisk's mother who had informed him of Page's involvement. He explained that Fisk would be highly disturbed to learn they had spoken to her so he wished to resolve the situation. When Page told him to kill her already, he explained he wanted to offer her a job.


Page shoots and kills James Wesley

Wesley explained he wanted Page to use her powers of persuasion to convince Ben Urich and everyone she had been speaking to that everything was okay and they should leave the story and Wilson Fisk alone. When Page told him she would rather die, he explained he would kill Urich, Foggy Nelson, Matt Murdock, her friends and her family before they killed her. The second Wesley's phone went off, Page used the momentary distraction to steal his gun. Wesley attempted to bluff his way out of the situation by claiming the gun was not loaded, but when he attempted to stand, Page shot him. She fired a further six more shots into Wesley's chest, killing him before fleeing.[12]



Page suffers a melt down after her experience

"I'm starting to think I made a mistake coming to work here."
"Do you want to leave."
"No, this is my home, you and Foggy are the only good things in my life right now."
―Karen Page and Matt Murdock[src]

Horrified by what she had just experienced, Page went to the dock side with James Wesley's gun. She overlooked the water as she considered her next move before throwing the gun into the water, disappearing forever. With the evidence gone, Page returned to her apartment where she drank whiskey from the bottle and cried in the shower, scrubbing her body but still feeling unclean. As Page tried to sleep, she dreamed of finding Wilson Fisk in her apartment. Fisk spoke to her of the pain and struggle of killing a man, assuring her that it gets easier before attempting to crush her skull. This caused Page to awake with a start and cry.

Unable to return to sleep, Page went to the Nelson and Murdock Law Office where she found Foggy Nelson, who questioned if she had been drinking. Nelson attempted to apologies for his fall out with Matt Murdock affecting her as they joked about drinking and taking drugs. As Nelson went to collect more of his belongings, he refused to answer Page's questions about what exactly had happened between him and Murdock, although he vowed to continue going after Wilson Fisk as he claimed no one can kill people and call themselves a human being and asked for the documents Ben Urich had given her from the Masked Man, with Nelson admitting he no longer viewed the man as a terrorist and promised to always be there for her.

Karen talking with Matt

Page speaks to Matt Murdock

As Nelson went to leave he found Murdock standing in the doorway, Murdock let him go past without a word. Murdock asked Page what she was doing there so late before she made him a coffee. Page told Murdock that Nelson believed himself to be responsible for the death of Elena Cardenas, although Page tried to convince Murdock to repair the relationship, Murdock insisted it was Nelson's choice. Page told him that although she regretted working at Nelson and Murdock, she viewed it as her home since she said the world had fallen apart.

Pushing Ben Urich

"You have to trust me on this Ben, we need that story out there before it's too late."
―Karen Page to Ben Urich[src]

Page waited outside Ben Urich's Apartment to ask why he had not published the story about Fisk killing his father yet, when Urich ignored the issue Page told him that Fisk's people knew what had happened. Urich invited her inside and told her that he was trying to prove that Fisk's father had connections to a mobster named Don Rigoletto so they could prove that Marlene Vistain was telling the truth. Urich suggested that Page publish the story online but she insisted it had to be the New York Bulletin so it wouldn't be questioned, Urich relented and agreed.

Karen discusses with Ben Urich

Page asks for Ben Urich's help

While waiting at the Nelson and Murdock Law Office, Page received a call from Ben Urich who told her his editor Mitchell Ellison was busy attending his kid's show at school so he had been unable to show him the story yet. They were interrupted when Matt Murdock called and informed her that he had had a rough morning and needed to take the day off so he could work on something at home. He asked Page to pass on the message to Foggy Nelson as well before promising her that everything would work out fine in the end.

Urich called a little while later and informed her that he had been fired and noted that Mitchell Ellison might be working for Fisk. Urich told her that he would put the story online. Page opened the locked door to allow Matt Murdock to enter, Page asked if the three of them would ever start speaking to each other again. Murdock told her that a friend had told him he would have to push people away to be effective, he told her that he had had a shitty night where he'd seen the bottom of humanity and could no longer do it alone. Page hugged him and told him he was not alone and never had been.

Ben Urich's Murder

"Mrs. Urich I, I think it's my fault what happened to Ben, I pushed him into a story that he didn't want..."
"Ben Urich never got pushed into doing anything he didn't want to do. He was a reporter, that's what he lived for, and he passed doing what he loved, what he had to do."
―Karen Page and Doris Urich[src]

As it turned out, Page's over-eagerness for Ben Urich to bring the story out had tragic consequences, as Urich was found dead in his home having been strangled by an unknown attacker. Page attended his funeral alongside Matt Murdock as Foggy Nelson had said he could not attend. As Urich's coffin was being brought out to the grave, Page noticed that his former editor Mitchell Ellison was also attending.

Karen and Doris Urich

Page expresses her guilt to Doris Urich

Page took a moment to speak Urich's widow Doris while Murdock spoke to Father Lantom. Page introduced herself to Mrs. Urich and was surprised to learn that Urich had spoken of her fondly quite often, even being told that Urich viewed her as the daughter he'd never had. Although Page tried to tell her that she blamed herself for Urich's death, Mrs. Urich assured her that he would never have followed the story if he did not feel it needed to be told. Page tried to see if there was anything she could do to support Mrs. Urich but learned that Ben Urich had taken out life insurance years earlier. Page collected Murdock and they left.

Returning to the Nelson and Murdock Law Office, Page and Murdock discussed Mitchell Ellison's possible involvement in Urich's death and Foggy Nelson's failure to attend the funeral. Murdock told her that what was happening with Nelson was his fault and recommended that she go home and rest, but Page told him that she was being haunted by dreams of Wilson Fisk as she was terrified of Fisk learning that she was with Urich when talking to his mother. Murdock vowed to keep her safe and bring down Fisk's empire.

Murdock and Foggy Nelson repaired their friendship and agreed to work together once again, Page joined them at the office as they went through the documents Marci Stahl had given them to try and find a clue to Carl Hoffman's location, as he had been put in hiding by Leland Owlsley and could expose Fisk. Nelson joked about his chances at becoming a butcher while Page commented on how happy she was to have them all back together again. Eventually Page found a building on the records which seemed to have been secretly removed.[13]

Wilson Fisk's Downfall

"Now everybody knows what kind of asshole Fisk really is."
"And we are the ones who made it happen."
Foggy Nelson and Karen Page[src]

Carl Hoffman was found and saved from Wilson Fisk's assassination attempt at the hands of Corbin by the Masked Man. Hoffman requested to be represented by Nelson and Murdock as he made his statement against Fisk. Page was present with Matt Murdock and Foggy Nelson as Hoffman told the FBI everything he knew in exchange for nothing but the freedom of guilt. As a result Fisk, Randolph Cherryh, Parish Landman, Corbin, Turk Barrett and many other were arrested.

Karen with Matt and Foggy

Page celebrates Wilson Fisk's arrest

As they watched the news report of Fisk's arrest, Nelson, Murdock and Page shared drinks in their office to celebrate. Nelson made acknowledgments to Marci Stahl's involvement in their win while Murdock commented that having Nelson and Murdock back together was greatly important to him as it meant the people closest to him were safe and they had gotten closure for the ones they had lost. They raised their glasses in respect to Elena Cardenas, Ben Urich and everyone else Fisk had hurt or killed.

To their horror however, the van carrying Fisk came under fire as Fisk was seemingly rescued while the FBI agents were murdered in the streets. Page furiously commented on how they had been foolish to think Fisk would go down so easily while they got in a taxi to go home. Murdock insisted he get his own taxi and despite Page and Nelson's protests he promised to make his own way home without them while Nelson took her back.[13]

Moving Forward Together

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Page, Murdock and Nelson discuss Daredevil

"I cannot believe this is the same guy that stopped that Union Allied nut from stabbing me in my apartment. That is a serious upgrade."
"I don't know, I think the horns are a little much."
―Karen Page and Foggy Nelson talk about Daredevil[src]

Page, Nelson and Murdock and Page gathered outside Nelson and Murdock the next day to discuss Wilson Fisk's arrest while Nelson put up the sign outside their building. Page and Nelson joked about Daredevil's costume and name. Just before Nelson then left to help Marci Stahl get herself a new job and they commented on how they were the ones to have put Fisk away and noted their next step would be to find clients.

Just before they went inside, Matt Murdock spoke to Page, noted that there was a fear in her voice that still had not gone away since Fisk had been arrested. Page told him it was because despite Fisk being put away, Elena Cardenas and Ben Urich still were not going to come back as a result. Murdock told her that while they could change what had happened or what they had done, they could still try and move forward regardless. He then took her hand as they went into the office together.[13]

Nelson and Murdock's Financial Trouble

Murdock and Nelson arrived at the office one morning to find Page already there, along with a crowd of new clients who wished Nelson and Murdock to represent them. She then pulled Nelson and Murdock aside and explained that the firm was broke, although she joked that they had plenty of fruit and baked goods. Murdock reassured her that somehow, the firm would find a way to survive.

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Protecting Grotto


Page plays pool with Matt Murdock

At Josie's Bar, Page, Foggy Nelson and Matt Murdock played pool together before they discovered that a man who called himself Grotto was looking for them. Grotto explained how he was the sole survivor of a deadly shootout at the Burren Club, in which most of the Kitchen Irish were killed. Terrified that the shooter would find him, he begged Nelson and Murdock to represent him and help him get into the witness protection program. Just as the lawyers agreed to look into Grotto's situation, Grotto fell unconscious to the floor. Page rushed to his aid and realized that he was bleeding profusely.

Later, Grotto awoke in a bed at Metro-General Hospital to find Page there, to tried to calm him while calling him "Steve". When he finally asked who Steve was, she explained that he was registered at the hospital as Steve Schaffer, and that she told the staff she was his wife Isabelle. Despite this, Grotto was still terrified that the shooter would return for him.

Later, Page was startled by noises in the corridor. She peeked out the door and saw an armed man walking purposefully down the hall. She grabbed Grotto and the two raced through the hallway, dodging bullets as they tried to get away. She led Grotto through an emergency exit and outside. She fumbled with her keys as she told Grotto they were making their getaway in a car that once belonged to her friend, who died.

Dealing with the District Attorney


Page takes Grotto to the police station

Page took Grotto to the 15th Precinct Police Station, where they were met by Foggy Nelson, who was relieved to find Page safe. He told them that Matt Murdock was ill and wouldn't be coming. Officer Brett Mahoney arrived and gave Grotto a prison uniform to change into, since he was still wearing his hospital gown. He told them the police were examining the security footage from the hospital before suggesting Page and Nelson leave Grotto to change.

Mahoney then told Nelson and Page that someone from the District Attorney's Office would be there soon to talk to them about getting Grotto into witness protection. He then confided to them that the shooter was just the latest vigilante to crop up after Daredevil took out Wilson Fisk. He admitted that the police force was split in their opinions about the new vigilante, saying that some thought he was dangerous and had to be stopped, while others thought he was making their jobs easier.

Soon, District Attorney Samantha Reyes herself arrived, along with Blake Tower, the assistant DA. Reyes cooly dismissed Nelson and Page and tried to take control of Grotto's witness protection agreement herself. Nelson, however, refused to be steamrolled and pointed out that the District Attorney's office had no legal right to handle the case themselves. Fuming, Reyes allowed Nelson and Murdock to take the case, but made it clear that they were now on her bad side. Page complimented Nelson on how well he took charge of the situation, but he warily told her that this was just the beginning.

Back in the interrogation room with Grotto, Page and Nelson listened as Reyes and Tower laid out what they wanted from Grotto before they put him in witness protection. They wanted him to wear a wire while he met with Edgar Brass, a drug dealer. Grotto flatly refused, saying that he was as good as dead if he did. Page and Nelson took him aside and convinced him to listen to the DA's offer. Grotto was still unconvinced, until Reyes and Tower showed him multiple morgue reports of the mysterious shooter's victims. Page was horrified as they looked at the reports. Reyes' phone rang, and she left the room to take the call. Tower told Page, Nelson and Grotto that the DA's office was working on a profile for the killer and have given him a codename: The Punisher.

Later, at the Nelson and Murdock Law Office, Page handed Nelson a stack of bills, many of which were overdue. Nelson tried to joke about their troubles, but Page continued to study the morgue reports of the Punisher's victims. She mused aloud if she brought bad luck to herself and those around her, and wondered if the Punisher was after her. Nelson assured her that she had done nothing that deserved punishment, and offered to take her out for a cup of coffee.

Afterwards, Page visited Matt Murdock in his apartment to see how he was doing. When he met her at the door, he asked how she was doing. At first she said she was fine, then admitted that she was badly shaken after the events of the previous night. He comforted her and invited her in. She noticed a broken glass on the floor an wondered if he had been drinking. He assured her that he was fine, but she refused to back down, asking him how many times he could use walking into a door or falling as an excuse for his injuries.


Page and Matt Murdock discuss Daredevil

When he reminded her that he was blind, she told him she wasn't an idiot. She agreed to let it go and then filled him on Nelson's meeting with Grotto and the DA. Murdock asked what Page thought of the Punisher, and she wondered if the city created him by cheering on Daredevil every time he took out a criminal. Murdock argued that there was no connection since Daredevil never killed anyone, but Page pointed out that no one knew if Daredevil ever did. Page told Murdock that she and Nelson both cared about him, and then left to help Foggy Nelson prepare his case.

Losing Grotto

Page and Nelson accompanied Grotto to a warehouse, where Reyes and Tower had set up a sting operation to catch Brass. As Grotto complained about his wire and being relocated to Florida, Page reassured him that the operation would be fine. Nelson prepped Grotto on how to get Brass to incriminate himself. Grotto asked Page for a kiss for luck, and she responded by flipping him off. Grotto joked that he'd take what he could get.

Page asked Nelson if Murdock had contacted him. Nelson responded that Murdock was feeling better and was going to bed early. Grotto left to make contact with Brass as the others listened in. At one point, a technician reported that they had lost Grotto's signal, which Reyes blamed on his entering a metal shipping container. Page, sensing something was not right, was able to get the signal back, and as she listened, she realized that Grotto was being used as bait to lure out the Punisher.

They watched as heavily armed officers shot at a truck that barreled into the area. In the confusion, Grotto made a run for it. Page, seeing this on the monitor, tried to go after him, but Nelson stopped her, saying it was too dangerous.

On the monitors, they watched as the Punisher was spotted on a rooftop, and was attacked by Daredevil. Reyes ordered the officers to shoot the Punisher, but they reported that they didn't have a clean shot. However, she repeated the order, which upset Nelson visibly. When the fight was over, Grotto, the Punisher, and Daredevil had all disappeared.

Page angrily confronted Reyes, accusing her of deliberately putting their client in harm's way in order to draw out the Punisher. She threatened to go public with the story, but Reyes cooly responded that if the story got out, she would make sure Nelson and Murdock were blamed for the botched sting operation. Reyes and Tower left, and Page was furious at Nelson for not backing her up. Nelson calmly told her that there was nothing, legally, that they could do. Nelson told her he would call Murdock, and Page left for the office, thinking that Grotto might try to contact them there.

Grotto did indeed call the office, and Page took the call. She tried to convince him to come into the office, and that Nelson and Murdock would try to get the DA to honor the witness protection agreement. But Grotto told her that he was leaving the city for good. He told her to go to hell before hanging up.

Meeting with Blake Tower

Later that night, Page visited Blake Tower in his office, and revealed that she had been researching Reyes' career. She pointed out that many of Reyes' assistant district attorneys had been forced out of their jobs because of work related scandals, but that, someone, Reyes was never implicated in any of the scandals. She asked Tower for any information he had on the Punisher. Tower loudly told her to leave and never come back, but he handed her a file folder.

Back at the office, page spread out the contents of the folder, which were the Punisher files. She made notes as she examined each item, and stopped, startled, when she came across an X-ray of a skull with a bullet hole.

Mourning Grotto


Page attends Grotto's quiet funeral

Page met Matt Murdock at his apartment so that they could attend Grotto's funeral together. She helped him with his tie. He joked that although he could not verify it, she seemed good at it. She responded that she often helped her brother. He was surprised to learn that she had a brother. He thanked her for helping him, and they left for the church. Foggy Nelson, Murdock and Page were the only three mourners at Grotto's funeral. Afterwards, she spoke to Father Lantom, telling him that she hated to think of anyone dying alone. Murdock told Nelson and Page he would meet them back at the office, as he wanted to stay at the church awhile longer.

Learning of Frank Castle

When Mudock rejoined them at the office, Page shared with them the files Tower had given her, and explained that in the middle of the morgue reports, she found an X-ray of a skull with a bullet wound. She explained that there might be more to the Punisher story than the DA's office is letting them know. Nelson insisted that they should not continue to look into it, worried about what the DA could do to their practice and what the Punisher might do to them personally. When Nelson left to answer the phone, Page asked Murdock what he thought about it all. He was distracted and admitted that he was thinking about Father Lantom's eulogy. Then he told her that she was compassionate. When she joked that she was no saint, he told her he was very glad to hear it. Nelson called Murdock into his office to discuss a case with him. When Murdock left the room, Page took the Punisher files and left the office.

Page visited a janitor named George Bach at his place of employment. He was startled and upset when he saw her, but she told him she wanted to help him to get his job back, as a nurse at Metro-General Hospital. She offered to buy him a cup of coffee.

Outside, over coffee, Bach explained to Page that he was a nurse at Metro-General Hospital, and had been assigned to a John Doe who had been shot in the head. He was comatose and had no family or any visitors, besides people in black suits. Page, wearing a black suit herself, realized this was why he reacted so badly when she appeared. Bach further explained that there was a Do Not Resuscitate order filed for the patient, and that Bach was present when the doctor shut off his life support system. After flatlining for a full minute, the patient revived. The patient then grabbed Bach and told him to take him home. Bach did, although he knew it would probably get him fired. Page asked for the man's address.

Page took a taxi to the address Bach gave her and broke into the house. She found mail piled up near the front door's mail slot and dead flowers. There were toys on the floor. She picked up a toy flashlight to examine the house. She found a photo of a soldier receiving a medal, and a photo of a man, a woman, and two children on a carrousel. She took the photo of the carrousel. She noticed a van pull up outside the house and left quickly.

Rainy Night with Murdock

Nelson, Murdock and Page met at Josie's Bar and watched a news report of Frank Castle's arrest. The newscaster reported that Officer Brett Mahoney had arrested him. The three drank a toast to Brett and to a safe Hell's Kitchen. Nelson approached the bar to buy them a round of shots, and Murdock and Page talked about how precious life was. Murdock asked her about her brother, and she told him he was sweet.

After the shots, Murdock and Nelson went outside, where it was raining heavily, while Page settled their tab. When she joined them outside, Nelson said he was going home, joking that someone had the terrible idea to do shots. After he left, Page asked Murdock if he minded the rain. When he answered that he didn't, she took his hand and walked him home.

They walked in the rain in silence, and when they reached his apartment building, they kissed. He asked her if he could take her to dinner the following night. She accepted immediately. They then said goodnight, and she hailed a cab, glancing back at him before getting in the taxi.

Defending the Punisher

The following morning, Page arrived at the law office with three cups of coffee and newspapers. Nelson wanted to being working on cases, but Page asked if they could discuss the Punisher first. She complained that in all the newspaper stories, there was no mention of his family. When the two lawyers looked confused, she confessed that she had broken into Castle's home. They immediately and strongly voiced their displeasure, pointing out that it was dangerous and illegal, but she told them to stop lecturing her or she'd take their coffee back. Nelson, exasperated, told her that they should let it go, and went into his office. Murdock told Page that he wanted to make sure she was safe. She then mentioned how great the previous night had been and Murdock, joking, pretended to have no memory of it. He then admitted that it was great, and that he hoped that evening would be better. Suddenly, Nelson yells from his office, and comes back into the front room, telling them a large deposit had been made to their bank account. Murdock explained that it was from a potential client, and warned them not to spend it, as he wasn't sure if it would work out. He then excused himself and left the office.

Some time later, Blake Tower arrived at the office and asked to speak to Nelson privately. Page was annoyed that she was excluded from their conversation.

Frustrated that her concerns about Castle were not being taken seriously, she visit Mitchell Ellison at the New York Bulletin office. He recognized her from Ben Urich's funeral, and she began to apologize to him about her suspicions that he had been Fisk's mole at the Bulletin, but he brushed it off. She then told him that she found the Bulletin's article on Frank Castle to be incomplete, citing the omission of any mention of his family and military record. She asked permission to dig through the Bulletin's back issues to find any mention of the murder of the Castle family. Ellison agreed, providing that the Bulletin would have an exclusive to any story she dug up. He showed her to a storage office full of hard copies of papers, explaining that decades of electronic files were lost in "The Incident." As Page went to work, he chuckled, commenting that Ben Urich was surely smiling down on them.

Karen was totally immersed in her research when Ellison returned, three hours later. Ellison helped her to narrow down the date range when the Castle family would have been killed, and together, they found a brief article that described a bloody shoot out between the Mexican Cartel, the Dogs of Hell, and the Kitchen Irish, at the Central Park Carrousel. Page realized this was when the Castle family was killed. Ellison told her to confirm the facts. She took the newspaper and left to get ready for her dinner with Murdock.

Murdock and Page met at a restaurant, and they awkwardly discussed what they should drink and asked about each other's day. She excused herself, asking him to order something fantastic. When she returned, she found that Murdock had left their table, saying that he didn't like the restaurant. She hesitantly asked if it was the restaurant or her, and he assured her that she was not the problem. She told him she knew another place, and they left.

They continued their date at a much more casual Indian restaurant, where they were both more at ease. They joked about appreciating cheap stuff, and talked about her move from Vermont to New York. Afterwards, he walked her back to her apartment, where they sat on the front stoop. They began kissing, and Page invited him up to her apartment. He gently turned her down, explaining that he had an ability to bring disaster to the best things in his life, and he wanted this evening to remain perfect. After agreeing to go on another date with him the following night, she went inside.

The next morning, Page went to work at the Nelson and Murdock office, where she and Nelson were met by Christopher Roth, the public defender assigned to Frank Castle's case. In Nelson's office, Roth asked Page to sign a witness statement describing the night Castle attacked Grotto at Metro-General Hospital. As she read the statement, she commented that it was full of inconsistencies.

Murdock arrived just as Roth was explaining that Reyes wanted to extradite Castle to Delaware, the site of a brutal attack by Castle on the Dogs of Hell. Delaware had the death penalty, and Reyes wanted Castle dead. Page then refused to sign the witness statement, saying it was too inaccurate.

When Roth left, Page suggested that the firm defend Castle themselves. Murdock agreed, arguing that Reyes was trying to subvert justice and deny Castle a fair trial. Nelson was adamant that they stay away from the case, pointing out that because of Reyes, they had no more clients. Murdock asked Page if he could speak to Nelson alone, and she left Nelson's office.

Minutes later, Nelson opened the door of his office and asked her to grab her stuff, as they were all going to the hospital to speak to Castle. Once they arrived, they were shocked by how tight security was. On the floor where Castle was being held, they were met by Brett Mahoney, who revealed to them that he had been promoted. They explained that they wished to offer their legal services to Castle. Mahoney tried to dissuade them, but eventually took them through a second security check before letting them in to Castle's room. He warned them not to take anything from, or give anything to, Castle. He also told them that he would arrest them if they walked past a line that was taped around Castle's bed.

Page took Murdock's hand as they entered Castle's room. She was shocked to see how badly injured he was. The three tried to convince Castle to let them represent him, but he was reluctant, citing their defending Grotto. They explained to him that the D.A. had issued a do not resuscitate order on him when he was first shot, and also a shoot to kill order, and now was aggressively seeking the death penalty. He was still not convinced.

Ignoring Mahoney's warning, Page rushed at Castle, holding the photo she had removed from his home. She angrily told him that someone was trying to cover up his family's murder, and that the three of them were the only ones who cared. He was surprised that she had been in his home. Murdock managed to pull Page away from Castle moments before Reyes arrived and angrily ordered them out of the room.

Reyes accused Nelson and Murdock of violating legal ethics by visiting Castle without permission from his attorney. Murdock argued that they had a right to pursue Castle as a potential client. When Reyes suggested this was a conflict of interest since the firm also represented Grotto, Nelson pointed out that all records of that case had disappeared from public record.

At this moment, Mahoney arrived, informing them that Castle had asked for Nelson and Murdock to be his lawyers from now on. The three excused themselves to an empty room when they discussed how to go forward with the case.

There was a knock on the door, and a limousine driver informed them that his employer had sent a car service for Murdock. Murdock stammered, explaining that he had forgotten he had scheduled a meeting with the same wealthy potential client who deposited a large sum in their bank account. Before leaving, he kissed Page, prompting Nelson to ask if they were officially dating. Page responded that they weren't labeling it, and walked Murdock to the elevator bank.

They reminisced about their date the previous evening, and since she and Nelson had to go over Castle's files, and Murdock had to meet with the potential client, she suggested they postpone that evening's date to the following evening. Murdock left.

Page returned to Nelson, where they reviewed the Punisher files. They were overwhelmed by the sheer number of charges against him. Although Nelson was very uncomfortable about meeting with a killer, they returned to Castle's room.

At first, Castle was quiet and didn't answer Nelson's questions. Eventually, he declared that he was guilty, and would only speak with Page alone. Nelson was adamantly against this, but Page agreed. Once they were alone, she shared with him the D.A.'s version of the events leading to his family's deaths, which he said was a lie. He then told her his version of the story, which was that they were enjoying a family outing at the carousel at Central Park when bullets began flying. He had figured out later that the three groups involved were the Mexican Cartel, the Dogs of Hell, and the Kitchen Irish. He expressed remorse that his job was to keep his family safe and he failed. Sensing how upset he was, Page offered to leave, but he asked her to stay.

He assured her that during his attack on Grotto at Metro General Hospital, she was never in any danger, as he never hurt innocents. He explained to her that he was a scout sniper and that his training included avoiding any collateral damage. He then asked her about his visit to her house. To her surprise, he wasn't angry, but rather asked her to describe what she saw, because he hadn't been back since the murders. He described the way his children used to play, and Page shared with him that as a child, she played the same way. He thanked her for helping him remember them, and then told her she was free to ask him any questions she wanted.

Later, Nelson joined them, and explained that he got the best deal he could: no extradition to Delaware, and a life sentence with the possibility of parole after 25 years. He was unable to get the D.A. to agree to protective custody. Page was upset about this, saying that the criminals in the general population were out for The Punisher's blood, but Castle assured her that he could take care of himself. Nelson informed Castle that all he had to do was plead guilty, and that he'd never see anyone from Nelson and Murdock again.

However, when the arraignment was held in Castle's hospital room, he shocked them all by loudly and angrily declaring that he was not guilty. The D.A. was furious, and both Page and Nelson were stunned, not knowing what had gone wrong. Leaving the room, Nelson, still shocked, said he had to get a hold of Murdock to let him know that the case was going to trial.

At the courthouse, Murdock, Nelson, Page, Reyes and Tower agreed on a jury panel, to the obvious relief of the judge. Back at the Nelson and Murdock Law Offices, Page lamented on how badly organized the case files were. Murdock and Nelson agreed that the best defense they could give Castle would be to prove that Castle was suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and was thus not responsible for his actions. Since Murdock would be busy working on an opening statement, Page offered to go the prison to meet with Castle to float the idea past him. Murdock warned her to be careful, telling her that he would say the same thing to Nelson or a Navy SEAL. Page promised to be careful and left for the prison.

After being screened by security, Page met with Castle. She asked him if he could provide a name for a character witness, someone preferably from his time in the military, who could speak about what he had been through. Castle realized that they were going to pursue a PTSD defense and would not allow it, saying it was an insult to the veterans who actually did suffer from it. However, he did provide a character witness: Colonel Ray Schoonover, his former commanding officer. He and Page then began to look through the files about his family's murder to see if they could find anything that had previously missed.

Page returned to the law offices, to find Nelson working on Castle's defense. She told him that Castle would not allow a PTSD defense. She also told him that she and Castle looked at the autopsy report on Castle's family filed by the medical examiner, Dr. Gregory Tepper. According to Castle, the report was a fabrication. Nelson suggested that they cross examine Dr. Tepper and try to get him to admit that he falsified the autopsy report.

The next morning, Page and Nelson are already at the courthouse, waiting for Murdock, who had called to say he would be late. Page, exasperated by Murdock's recent behavior, asked Nelson what was going on with him. At that point the judge arrived and Reyes made her opening statement. Murdock still had no arrived, so Page encouraged Nelson to make the statement himself, which he did. Murdock arrived, clearly out of breath, as Nelson finished his statement.

In the hallway outside the courtroom, Page and Nelson angrily questioned Murdock about why he was so late. He apologized but gave no reason, instead complimenting Nelson on his opening statement. Page filled him in on Castle's assertion that Tepper had falsified the autopsy report, and Murdock suggested that they cross examine him after he took the stand the following day. Murdock also suggested that Page catch him up to speed that evening. Nelson reluctantly agreed, still clearly upset that Murdock had let him down. After Nelson returned to the law offices, Murdock told Page that he would make it up to both of them.

That evening, Murdock and Page enjoyed Thai food and wine while they made a plan for Tepper's cross examination. Murdock suggested that Page consider law school, but she said it was not a good fit. They reminisced about the night they first met, and Page mused aloud how both Murdock and the stranger in black had saved her that night.

She then asked Murdock if he believed in what Daredevil did. He replied that he believed in the law. They then discussed Castle's actions. Murdock believed that Castle clearly broke the law but that he needed help, not punishment. Page said that she wasn't sure if she agreed with what Castle did, but that it was clearly effective. This gave Murdock pause, and he asked her if she really believed that. At first she denied it, and then admitted that maybe she did. After an uncomfortable silence, Murdock suggested that they were both tired and should call it a night, promising a real date soon. Page left.

The following morning, at the courthouse, Tower called Tepper to the stand to go over the autopsy reports of the fifteen members of the Kitchen Irish that Castle had shot. Murdock cross examined him, asking him how many death certificates he had signed. To everyone's surprise, Tepper asked the judge if he could make a statement.

The judge cleared the courtroom, leaving only the prosecution, the defense, the judge, and the witness in attendance. Pepper admitted that he altered the autopsy reports of the Castle family, because men came to his office and threatened his family if he didn't. They also demanded he change the records of a John Doe who was killed during the same attack. He then admitted he was telling the truth now, because the night before, a woman with a foreign accent who had her face covered came to his home and demanded that he tel the truth or she would kill him.

Both the prosecution and the defense accused each other of sending people to threaten the medical examiner. Over Nelson and Murdock's objections, the judge ordered all of Tepper's testimony be stricken from the record.

Once court was adjourned, Nelson stormed to the men's room, with Murdock following. Page could hear their raised voices yelling from the hallway. Nelson emerged, enraged, and when she asked what was going on, he told her to ask Murdock. After Murdock entered the hallway, she demanded answers, and was angry when he said it was between him and Nelson. He headed towards the elevator and she left separately, very angry.

The next morning, at the courthouse, only Nelson and Page are present for the defense. When Page asked Nelson why Murdock was not there, he admits that he told him to stay home, adding that he didn't think he'd really do it. Page encouraged Nelson, telling him that he was a great lawyer and could handle questioning Schoonover himself.

Nelson called Schoonover to the stand. Schoonover described Castle as a hero, telling a story of how Castle saved his entire unit, including his commanding officer, against what seemed to be impossible odds. When Reyes cross examined him, she suggested that since the file was heavily redacted, perhaps not all the story was true. Schoonover surprised her by telling the courtroom that he knew it was true because he was the commander officer that Castle saved. Page complimented Nelson, assuring him that Murdock could not have handled the cross examination better.

Nelson next called Dr. Lee, an expert on brain trauma, to describe the damage done to Castle's brain when he was shot in Central Park years ago. Castle muttered to Page that it sounded a lot like PTSD, but Page assured him it wasn't. Nelson continued to question Dr. Lee, who suggested that Castle suffered from Extreme Emotional Disturbance. Just then, a young man rose from his seat, loudly yelling that Castle had killed his father. The judge had the man removed and ordered the jury to disregard the outburst.

Later, Page visited Castle at prison and asked him to take the stand the next day. He agreed. Outside the courthouse, Page informed Nelson that Castle would testify. Nelson insisted that Murdock be the one to question him. Page disagreed, but Nelson convinced her to find Murdock and ask him to do it.

Page went to Murdock's apartment, where the door was opened by an old man. The man slid open the door to Murdock's bedroom, and Page was shocked to find a woman in Murdock's bed. He suggested they go someplace to talk, but she pulled away, informing him that Castle would take the stand the following day and that Nelson wanted Murdock to question him. She rushed off as the old man called out that it was nice to meet her.

In the courtroom the next day, the gallery was packed. Page and Nelson soberly wondered if Murdock would show up. When he did, he tried to speak to Page, but she brushed him off and told him that Nelson wanted to speak with him.

Murdock called Castle to the stand. As officers escorted Castle to the stand, Page frowned and told Nelson and Murdock that something wasn't right. Murdock tried to question Castle, but he was unresponsive, so Murdock asked permission to treat him as a hostile witness. After Murdock made an impassioned plea that the jury remember that Castle was a hero, Castle asked the judge if he could say something. To everyone's surprise, he announced that he was glad he killed all those people are vehemently said he would do it again. Page was shocked. He repeatedly yelled that he was guilty. Castle was dragged off, screaming the entire time that he was The Punisher.

Outside the courthouse, Page expressed her shock to Nelson and Murdock, assuring them that Castle had acted completely differently the day before. Nelson angrily accused Murdock of provoking Castle by bringing up his vigilanteism, but Murdock said he believed someone had gotten to Castle. Nelson angrily told them that he was glad they lost the case and stormed off.

Murdock asked to speak to Page but she was furious. She told him that she didn't care anymore what he was hiding, or if he was an alcoholic like she suspected, and that she was done with him. She told him that the city did need heroes, but he wasn't one of them.


Karen Page is a cunning, optimistic woman with a humorous nature and an unshakable loyalty and love for the people closest to her. However, the series of traumatic events, from being framed for murdering her colleague, almost being assassinated in prison and murdering a man, evolves Page into a darker and more driven character, determined to bring those that wronged her to justice. Though these personal tragedies have affected her greatly, she is first and foremost an extremely kind and caring person and doesn't allow her growing cynicism to affect her ideals or nature.

Though not a romantic one, Page is attracted to dangerous men, namely Daredevil and the Punisher, although this was mostly due to the two of them being demonised by the the media and framed by Fisk and the Blacksmith, respectively, and as they both saved her life, she felt there was more to them than what everyone else was saying. It should be noted, however, that she developed feelings for Matt Murdock who was Daredevil and that, if only subconsciously, may have been cause for her interest in Murdock.

Page's loyalty to her friends can make her act cold and spiteful if she feels hurt or shunned by the people she trusts. Being the only worker of Nelson and Murdock who wasn't aware that Matt was Daredevil, she was the only one who was constantly being lied to. After Nelson and Murdock stopped even speaking with each when Nelson discovered Daredevil's identity, it affected her state greatly, causing her to state that they were a team and this was not how a team acts. Due to Nelson not informing her why this was happening, she threatened to punch him in the throat if he claimed the situation was "complicated" and stated that he did not care about her. These traits become more evident when she engaged in a romantic relationship with Murdock. After a string of ill-concocted lies, his failure to appear at Frank Castle's trial - effectively causing the firm to shut down, and Page finding a half-naked Elektra Natchios in his bed, she assumed the worst, severed all ties with him immediately, claiming he wasn't a hero that could save New York City.

She can be viewed as a woman who gets into trouble quite often, from being caught in the crossfire of the Blacksmith framing the Punisher, almost being assassinated by Fisk numerous times, and kidnapped by the Hand, James Wesley and Ray Schoonover.








Appearances for Karen Page

In chronological order:


  • In the comics, Karen Page is the second love interest of Matt Murdock, ultimately develops a drug addiction, and gets killed by Bullseye.
  • Karen is the only person Matt willingly reveals his identity as Daredevil to.


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